WTC 7 Debate
Fullerton founder of Vernon 9/11 Truth and a signing member of
Scientists for 9/11 Truth is looking for at least one good scientist
debate him publicly on a very focused scientific problem of the
September 11, 2001 event. That problem is determining which
of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center (WTC 7) on 9/11 is more
scientific, the official US Government explanation
or the controlled
Any number of scientists can deliberate together to generate responses provided only one single spokesperson directly engages Fullerton. The debate need not be in person, it can be cheaply and conveniently conducted on the Internet by forum, YouTube or chat. The only rules are no fallacies of any kind including personal attacks and misdirection (red herrings).
explains why he wants the debate. "In science, the prevailing theory
for a particular phenomena must be the simplest theory available that
best explains all the observed facts. The official theory of how
Building 7 fell on 9/11 cannot explain a single fact as far as I can
see. In particular, the official theory cannot explain the
extraordinary fact that the building was in free fall for at least
seconds. If a building is in free fall there is nothing but air
it. For this free fall period to occur then, eight stories of lower
structure had to be completely removed. There is no known way that
can do this but explosives certainly can. Explosives are routinely
to quickly and precisely bring down buildings but fire isn't. The
controlled demolition theory also explains many other facts including
the eyewitness reports of molten metal seen under the building, the
unique signature of iron-rich microspheres in the WTC dust and the
eutectic formations causing intergranular melting of some of the WTC 7
steel. To me, this means the explosive controlled demolition theory is
the most scientific theory available for explaining the Building 7
collapse. Those scientists that disagree with my conclusions must have
a valid scientific reason and should therefore have no problem
me. I encourage everyone to seek out scientists and ask them to either
debate me or admit that they see no faults in my arguments."
The following people have debated and horribly lost:
"Pyrrho" - Skeptic magazine forum administrator. [We don't really know who "Pyrrho" is but it shows what debaters will be up against.]
Jeffrey Shallit - professor of computer science at the University of Waterloo. [Shallit refused to engage in debate on any non-trivial points. Apparently his debating skills are limited to spouting ad hominems and other fallacious reasoning. See for yourself. Very illogical behavior coming from a computer science professor.]
The following people have been contacted:
James Randi (James Randi Educational Foundation) - refused
Dave Thomas (New Mexicans for Science and Reason) - refused
Michael Shermer (Publisher of Skeptic magazine) - no responseRichard Dawkins (Author of The God Delusion) - no response
Neil deGrasse Tyson (host of NOVA scienceNOW on PBS) - politely refused
Bill Nye (host of Bill Nye The Science Guy TV show) - no response
Adam Savage (co-host of Mythbusters TV show) - no response
David Suzuki (host of the Nature of Things TV show) - refused by assistant
Bob McDonald (host of Quirks & Quarks radio show) - no response
Susan Blackmore (expert on meme theory) - politely refused
Phil Plait (The Bad Astronomer) - no response
Steve Dutch (professor of Natural and Applied Sciences at University of Wisconsin - Green Bay
and author of Nutty 9-11 Physics) - no response but debated privately - do you want to see the embarrassing results of this debate? Ask professor Dutch to allow the debate's publication.
All physics professors at Okanagan College - no response
The following organizations have been contacted:
Committee for Skeptical Inquiry - no response
Center For Inquiry - no response
Center For Inquiry Canada - no response
Center For Inquiry Okanagan - no interest
Why the lack of interest in a debate?
Some actual responses:
- Scientists don't waste their time debating with conspiracy theorists.
- The official theory of 9/11 where terrorists conspired to demolish buildings by ramming planes into them is a conspiracy theory. Therefore any scientist who supports that theory is also conspiracy theorist and should therefore have no problem debating another conspiracy theorist.
- The topic is silly. No scientists would waste their time with such a non-issue.
- 3000 people died on 9/11. Over a million people have died in the resulting wars over an event where the US government's version of what happened violates the laws of physics. That is not a silly non-issue. Scientists regularly debate theists and creationists. Both these issues are regularly regarded as silly yet dangerous issues that must be dealt with. The physicist Dave Thomas has debated with Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
One thing we do know is that scientists never ever support an easily falsified theory. Perhaps this is why no scientist wants to debate Fullerton.